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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:37:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:This thread will run for one week, until 17:00 on Wednesday, December 5th, after which I will close it. I will then gather responses, opinions, questions and feedback from it, before forwarding it on to the Senior GMs for review, who will then provide a response.
Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2235632
It's been more than a month since that thread was locked, and we're a week into 2013. Isn't it time we got an update on this?
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:46:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
Bear in mind that this is an issue we would like to consider from all angles, and is also being dealt with over the holiday season. As such, a response may take some time to be issued, and may end up arriving just after the New Year.
It's been less than a month since the new year. Have some patience maybe? Only 12 months in a year. I can't think of a reason that the GM team should have to take a sixth of a year to decide whether or not you're allowed to bump into mining ships.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:57:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:This is their attempt to further publicize their organization. Do not reply to the thread, and it will die. Belligerent undesirables have no place in demanding anything from anyone. Learn your place, filth. I don't think anyone has a place making demands, I tend to find making demands is what makes people belligerent undesirables in the first place. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I was demanding a response from CCP. More like politely requesting an update in the slightly belligerently undesirable fashion that is the norm in this forum when discussing CCP's failings.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:04:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:you certainly weren't as polite as you could have been. "Isn't it time to get an update?" v. "Is it possible to get an update?" - mostly, your wording could have been better if you were aiming for polite. Well, it's obviously pretty subjective, but wouldn't you say that 'When will there be an update?' is almost completely neutral in terms of politeness, and therefore above average for this forum?
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:11:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:If you were aiming for polite, you did miss the mark, but only by a fraction really. Awww, thanks
Estella Osoka wrote:There's a miner bumping issue?
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:54:00 -
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Andski wrote:Honestly, it'd be prudent to simply let it die if they decided that miner bumping isn't the problem that it's made out to be on the forums. If they announced "we decided that miner bumping isn't a problem" you'd have a ton of whining, ~New Order~ victory posts and other noise that is just unnecessary. I'd hate to see CCP promise an official decision and then back up on that promise, though.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:11:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Honestly, you are fortunate that they are even considering the issue rather than dismissing it out of hand.
Any "fix" to this issue is going to be touching on aspects of the physics engine that will involve a huge amount of development time, and potentially cause issues in everything from combat to undocking from Jita. This isn't something to be taken lightly.
I don't think anyone would object if the physics of collisions in game were made more realistic, however that has little or nothing to do with people considering the bumping of miners to be a serious issue. Personally, I'm not hoping for a change. I'm just interested in the outcome of the decision, and was wondering when it'd arrive.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 19:59:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:To reiterate on what people have said, this is still being discussed given the fact its a seen as a "widespread issue" by a lot of people. It's January 7th, we still have a fair number of staff who are visiting their families or otherwise taking time out over the holiday period. There'll be a response, and as was pointed out, it was stated that it'll be after the New Year. I've given the GM Team a heads up regarding this thread Thanks very much for your prompt answer. I am certainly looking forward to the GM team's final decision
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:15:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Just because a Company doesn't want to admit it, doesn't mean it isn't true. Plenty of examples of that. This is EVE. CCP's game. Not Yusef's game. It doesn't matter what you think harassment means. In this context, the only relevant definition is CCP's definition.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:27:00 -
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Boudacca Sangrere wrote:IF a NON afk miner is clearly prevented from mining - then implement a function that will flag the bumper for the agression which he clearly perpetrates The idea about module interruption is just one, I am sure there are others. Collission damage etc. will not work due to bottlenecks like Station undock etc. Depends on the skill of the bumper and the bumpee.
Or the miner could just pay 10 million ISK and that's it.
Piugattuk wrote:Miner bumping is grief play IMO, being done by;
1.bored players 2.immaturity 3.lonely middle age guy who angry 4.obsessive player focusing on the lowest thing that won't fight back.
Take your pick it's probably time for those players to get their face out of the monitor and deal with RL so they won't be any of the above. Great answer! If you can't beat them ingame, just claim to have a better real life!
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:31:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Eve is a game. This is not the real world. Just because you are so disconnected from reality that you think harassment in the true sense of the word is ONLY defined by a game company doesn't mean others will feed into your delusion. You and others like you are so disconnected from the real world that I believe you need to have a time out You started off well, but then you misunderstood me.
What harassment means in the real world applies in the real world.
What harassment means according to CCP applies in EVE.
No overlap.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:40:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Yes, there is. Eve is not a magical place where real world conduct does not apply. Harassment is harassment is harassment until such time that Oxford University decides to change the definition. Keep feeding your delusions though! It simply makes it more evident that you are nothing but a filthy belligerent undesirable who has no place in high sec No there isn't. I can harass you according to your definition (or interpretation of the OED's definition) as much as I like ingame, so long as I don't harass you according to CCP's definition.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.08 06:41:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:
Nothing will happen mate. Sorry to tell you. CCP will continue to listen to the Nullers who complain about risk vs reward all the while being in Alliances blue to over 50% of Nullsec. Complete stupidity and hypocrisy, but what can you do?
"MINERS IN HIGHSEC ARE TOO SAFE....OHWAIT....I'M BUDDEEZ WITH PRETTY MUCH ALL OF NULLSEC, SO MY MINER ALT IS ACTUALLY SAFER THAN THE AVERAGE HIGHSEC MINER....DERP...WERP...FLERP...SLERP...HERP...."
Yeah.
...and yes, I'm in TEST but I don't say those sort of things about Highseccers. Not all nullsec folks agree with this "nerf highsec" crap. I personally think bumping is lame and ********. It's something anti-social people do to annoy people. That and its completely risk free "HEY DOESNT DAT GO AGANZ WUT THEY BELEEV??? DAT FOLKZ SHOULDNT BE ABULZ TO MAKE ISKEEZ WITHOUT RISKEEZ"?
Yes indeedy...but since when have sociopaths given a damn about being consistent?
You might want to get that MPD checked out.
You might also want to consider finding a corp that will appreciate your special blend of personality more than Dreddit does, but there you go.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.08 14:02:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:If it is not banned, three or four players will vote with their wallet FTFY
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.08 14:08:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:I am editing quotes because I want to hide the truth and use buzz words to try to convince CCP that abusing people is ok. FTFY. Continue on your path and hundreds, if not thousands of players will quit, because of you and your kind. Filthy undesirable. 'three or four' is not a buzz word.
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.08 14:17:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:No, it's an understatement to try to downplay the issue. A new tactic of the undesirables! And 'thousands' isn't a massive exaggeration?
Also, can you list the thousands of players that would leave, or did you just pull random numbers out of your arse?
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